The podcast

Econ to Icon

Conversations with people whose careers began in economics and went somewhere remarkable.

In Econ to Icon, Paul Johnson and I talk to people who trained as economists and went on to influential and sometimes surprising careers in government, regulation, journalism, finance, broadcasting and music. Paul, former Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies and author of Follow the Money, explores the economics and policy behind their work. I bring the perspective of a career spent at the Treasury, the IMF and the National Audit Office, and now as a coach, and explore the choices behind the public role: turning points, motivations, doubts, and what they'd tell their younger selves.